Legislature(2015 - 2016)BELTZ 105 (TSBldg)

02/25/2016 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ SB 127 INSURER'S USE OF CREDIT HISTORY/SCORES TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ SB 149 AIDEA:DIVIDEND TO STATE;INCOME;VALUATION TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ SB 152 MONEY SERVICES BUSINESS: REQS; LICENSING; TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
*+ SB 118 DNR LAND DISPOSAL SURVEYS; PEER REVIEW TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Canceled>
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 72 DESIGNATED CAREGIVERS FOR PATIENTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 72(L&C) Out of Committee
+= SB 141 E-CIGS: SALE TO AND POSSESSION BY MINOR TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 141(L&C) Out of Committee
        SB 149-AIDEA: DIVIDEND TO STATE;INCOME;VALUATION                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:40:56 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO  announced the consideration  of SB 149.  She noted                                                              
that this is the first hearing.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:41:32 PM                                                                                                                    
GENE THERRIAULT,  Policy Director,  Alaska Industrial  Development                                                              
and Export Authority (AIDEA), introduced himself.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2:41:51 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:42:26 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO reconvened the meeting.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  THERRIAULT  directed attention  to  the word  "excluding"  on                                                              
page  2,  lines  3  and  21, of  the  bill  to  help  explain  the                                                              
presentation.  The exclusions  were  added by  the legislature  in                                                              
recognition  that certain things  needed to  be excluded  from the                                                              
determination of  available net income  in order to  calculate the                                                              
dividend  AIDEA pays  the  state. Some  new  accounting rules  are                                                              
becoming  problematic  and AIDEA  would  like the  legislature  to                                                              
consider adding  things to  the exclusion. He  said Mr.  Lamb will                                                              
have examples  of the  new rules,  the impact  they are  having on                                                              
the dividend, and the proposed solution.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He said  the PowerPoint would  cover the dividend:  history (which                                                              
he   just  summarized),   goal,   statutory   language,  and   two                                                              
accounting problems they are working to solve.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He displayed  a chart showing the  AIDEA dividends that  have been                                                              
paid  starting  in  FY1997  since AIDEA  was  capitalized  with  a                                                              
little more than  $300 million. Since then, AIDEA  has repaid just                                                              
under $380  million. The bill is  intended to bring a  little more                                                              
predictability  to that  income  stream going  forward. He  turned                                                              
the discussion over to Mr. Lamb.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:46:33 PM                                                                                                                    
MICHAEL   LAMB,  Chief   Financial   Officer,  Alaska   Industrial                                                              
Development  and  Export  Authority (AIDEA),  explained  that  the                                                              
state  receives an  annual dividend  based  on AIDEA's  operations                                                              
and  SB  149   seeks  to  make  that  dividend   more  stable  and                                                              
predictable.  This has become  an issue  because accounting  rules                                                              
have changed since  the statute was written. This  matters because                                                              
the  dividend  is based  on  the  statutorily defined  net  income                                                              
which  is based  on  the financial  audit.  As  the audit  numbers                                                              
change,  the statutory  net income  number  changes which  changes                                                              
the dividend.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Three types of  transactions affect the financial  statements that                                                              
affect  the  dividend.  The  first type  are  entries  from  "real                                                              
transactions" that  occurred. Examples  are booking what  was paid                                                              
for an  asset, revenue  that is generated,  payroll that  is paid,                                                              
taxes paid,  and what  cash was  received and  why. There  isn't a                                                              
problem with this type of transactions.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The second  type of transactions  are entries from  "estimates and                                                              
allocations." Examples  are booking depreciation  and amortization                                                              
expenses which recognizes  and records that an asset  used up some                                                              
of  its estimated  useful  life  over  the period  of  operations.                                                              
There isn't a problem with this type of transactions.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The  third type  of transactions  are entries  from "market  value                                                              
adjustments." These  are entries related to transactions  that did                                                              
not happen, but  the statute requires them to be  recorded for the                                                              
audit as though  they did occur. [The statute  requires compliance                                                              
with  GASB  (Generally  Accepted   Auditing  Standards)  and  GAAP                                                              
(Generally  Accepted  Auditing  Principles).]  He  clarified  that                                                              
market value  adjustments have a purpose  for an audit  or to read                                                              
a financial  statement, but it's  a policy decision as  to whether                                                              
they  should be  used to  compute  the dividend  or excluded  like                                                              
other things.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:50:34 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LAMB  summarized the pertinent  language in the  existing Sec.                                                              
44.88.088 relating to the payment of the dividend:                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     The  authority shall  adopt a  policy for  payment of  a                                                                   
     dividend  to the state  each year.  The amount of  which                                                                   
     may  not  be less  than  25  percent  nor more  than  50                                                                   
     percent  of the  net income  for the  base fiscal  year.                                                                   
     The  meaning  of  "net  income" is  the  change  in  net                                                                   
     position, or  the equivalent term under GAAP  as set out                                                                   
     in  the audited  financial statements  of the  authority                                                                   
     for   the   base   fiscal    year,   excluding   amounts                                                                   
     attributable  to  intergovernmental  transfers,  capital                                                                   
     contributions,   grants,   or   impairment   losses   on                                                                   
     development projects financed under AS 44.88.172.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:50:42 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO  asked  why  "market   value  adjustment"  doesn't                                                              
appear in the bill.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMB replied it's part of the proposed new language.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
He  displayed   a  chart  to   illustrate  how  the   dividend  is                                                              
calculated. It is  based on the statutorily defined  "net income,"                                                              
which comes from  the audited financial statements  that the board                                                              
approves.  Those board-approved  audited  statements must  include                                                              
applicable "market  value" and/or "write-down/loss"  entries. GAAP                                                              
requires  those entries and  that all  applicable GASB  statements                                                              
are implemented.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SB  149 would  modify  the existing  excluded  language such  that                                                              
"net  income"  would  not include  any  market  value  adjustments                                                              
and/or state or  federal write-down activity when  calculating the                                                              
dividend.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:53:01 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO  asked how  the dividend  would have been  affected                                                              
if this change had been in statute in previous years.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMB said he would point that out later in the presentation.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. THERRIAULT  clarified that AIDEA  will continue to  follow all                                                              
GAAP  and GASB  rules  to  get the  audited  financial  statement.                                                              
AIEDA  is  asking  the  legislature   to  back  out  market  value                                                              
adjustments only for the purpose of calculating the dividend.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  LAMB  added   that  the  question  is  whether   or  not  the                                                              
components  that now  make up the  audit are  appropriate  for the                                                              
calculation of the dividend.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:54:37 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  LAMB restated  the  problems that  arises  when market  value                                                              
adjustments are  factored into  calculating the dividend.  Entries                                                              
that did  not happen are  booked as though  they did.  This causes                                                              
AIDEA's net  income to  swing, which also  causes the  dividend to                                                              
the  state to  swing.  When the  swings are  material  it makes  a                                                              
material difference  in the size  of the dividend. It's  a problem                                                              
for AIDEA when  it has to pay  a dividend based on cash  it hasn't                                                              
actually earned,  and a problem  for the  state when AIDEA  pays a                                                              
dividend based on unrealized losses, not the cash it earned.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  drew an  analogy  to an  individual taxpayer  who  has to  use                                                              
market value adjustments  in their tax return.  The individual had                                                              
W-2  earnings  of  $100,000,  interest   and  dividend  income  of                                                              
$7,500, and a  permanent fund dividend of $1,500  for total income                                                              
of $109,000. If  the taxpayer's income calculation  had to include                                                              
hypothetical  unrealized  GASB 31,  68, 72,  and  75 market  value                                                              
adjustments,  the  total income  would  be $169,000.  That  figure                                                              
presumes the  taxpayer sold  the assets when  in fact he  did not.                                                              
He  noted  that while  the  analogy  shows  more income  than  was                                                              
actually earned, it could just as easily go the other direction.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMB  displayed a  chart showing 25  years of AIDEA's  audited                                                              
net income  pre-GASB 31 market  value adjusting entries.  He noted                                                              
that  the year-to-year  changes  are  not  large. The  next  chart                                                              
superimposes  net  income  calculations  after  GASB  31  mark-to-                                                              
market   adjustments  started   in   1997.  Including   unrealized                                                              
revenues  and losses  results  in dramatic  swings  in net  income                                                              
from  year to  year. This  causes the  dividend to  swing just  as                                                              
dramatically.  He pointed to  the number of  times that  AIEDA has                                                              
paid a dividend  based on unrealized income. For  example, in 2010                                                              
the  dividend  was  based  on nearly  $20  million  in  unrealized                                                              
income.  Assuming a  50 percent  dividend, AIDEA  would have  paid                                                              
$10  million  more  in dividends  than  it  actually  earned.  The                                                              
situation reversed  in 2013  when AIDEA paid  a dividend  based on                                                              
about  $20 million  in unrealized  losses. The  cost to the  state                                                              
was $10 million less in the dividend.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:03:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  COSTELLO asked  how  he would  describe  the public  policy                                                              
value of the bill.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMB said tying  the dividend to the cash  that AIDEA actually                                                              
earned  from  its  operations provides  much  more  stability  and                                                              
predictability for both AIDEA and the state.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MEYER asked  if it's safe to say that  this change doesn't                                                              
necessarily mean  the state  will get more  of a dividend  or less                                                              
of a dividend.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMB  said we could  be better off  in some instances  and not                                                              
in others.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:08:44 PM                                                                                                                    
MR. LAMB  said the  bill also  seeks to  fix the  potential  for a                                                              
dividend  penalty.   When  the  value   of  a  project   has  been                                                              
determined  to have  been permanently  reduced,  GAAP requires  an                                                              
adjusting entry to  be booked to reduce and/or remove  some or all                                                              
of the value of  the asset or project from AIDEA's  balance sheet.                                                              
The resulting entry  reduces net income, which  either reduces the                                                              
dividend or  stacks the dividend  AIDEA pays due to  the adjusting                                                              
entry  reducing  value.  The dividend  penalty  for  an  adjusting                                                              
entry  could  be  25  percent  to   50  percent.  He  discussed  a                                                              
hypothetical example.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
If the  state funded a  project with $8.8  million and it  were to                                                              
go away, the $25.3  million in net income that  the dividend would                                                              
have been  based on would  be reduced by  $8.8 million so  the net                                                              
income would be  $16.5 million. The $8.8 million has  no value and                                                              
the  dividend  is  reduced  by 50  percent  or  $4.4  million.  He                                                              
displayed a  visual to  discuss the  same example. AIDEA  believes                                                              
this should be fixed, he said.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:14:27 PM                                                                                                                    
He reviewed  the new  statutory language proposed  in SB  149. The                                                              
language  on page 1,  lines 10-11,  would fix  the first  problem,                                                              
and  the language  on  page 2,  lines 5-8,  would  fix the  second                                                              
problem.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:16:06 PM                                                                                                                    
MR.  THERRIAU  summarized  that  the bill  adds  to  the  excluded                                                              
items,  accommodates   the  new  GASB  rules,  and   ensures  that                                                              
projects that  are written off won't  drag the dividend  down. The                                                              
policy  of the  bill is  to add  predictability  to the  dividend.                                                              
Referring  to Senator  Meyer's  question,  he said  these  changes                                                              
will smooth the impact to the dividend.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COSTELLO asked what precipitated the bill.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMB  said part of  it was that  the board wanted  the ability                                                              
to explain why  the dividend had shrunk to the  legislature. Also,                                                              
as  he  became  more  familiar  with  the  statutory  language  he                                                              
realized  it needed  to be  fixed. The  third reason  is that  new                                                              
GASB rules are coming and there is a compounding effect.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:21:33 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR COSTELLO held SB 149 in committee.                                                                                        

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 127.PDF SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Hearing Request L&C.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Sponsor Statement.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Sectional Analysis.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Credit-Based Insurance Scores Consumer Brochure.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Supporting Documents - NAMIC 1-25-16.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Supporting Documents - State Farm.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Supporting Documents- Email Brenda Pearce 2-4-16.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Supporting Documents- Email Cindi Heal 2-10-16.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Supporting Documents- Email Jeff Case 2-10-16.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Supporting Documents- Email Kay Rodriguez 2-10-16.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Supporting Documents- Email Kelly Snodgrass 2-10-16.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Supporting Documents- Email Stan Tebow 2-8-16.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Supporting Documents- Fax Tim Maudsley 2-10-16.PDF SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Supporting Documents- Letter Nancy Boeshart 2-16-16.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 Supporting Documents- Letter Stacey Matteson 2-11-16.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 127 - Fiscal Note DCCED.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 127
SB 149.PDF SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 149
SB 149 Transmittal Letter.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 149
SB 149 Sectional Analysis.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 149
SB 149 Hearing Request.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 149
SB 149 Fiscal Note-DCCED-AIDEA-11-20-16.PDF SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 149
SB 149 02.25.16 Presentation.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 149
SB 141 - AAAS E-Cigs More Dangerous Than Tobacco.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 141
Changes from CS SB 72(HSS) to CS vsn L 2-23-16.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 72
SB 141 - Background Harvard Gazette E-Cigs Flavorings Harmful.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 141
SB 141 - Version P Bill Summary.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 141
SB 141 E-Cigs Slideshow.PDF SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 141
SB 141 Version P Sectional.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 141
SB 141 Version P.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 141
SB72 Designated Caregiver vsn L 2-22-16.pdf SL&C 2/25/2016 1:30:00 PM
SB 72